Well first of all i would like to thank Dave for giving a genuine reason as to why he has been banned on this occassion, as many mods have simply banned him on an occasion and not given any reason, even when they have been asked for one

although, i would like to say, that Mark has changed his behaviour, and has apologised to some of those he has offended (although he has not been able to apologise to all those he has offended as he is continually banned), and as i said last night, is it not an injustice to not give Mark a chance to show he has changed his behaviour? I mean they give criminals that opportunity

DAVID WUZ ROBBED!!!!!! BUT I am very happy for Aaron as he did have a nice song and is a very deserved winner!

**CONGRATULATIONS AARON!!**

Thankyou to Krissu, Sheep, Kots (especially for the 12!!!), Este & Stockholm who voted for me! I am eternally grateful and you shall all be in my will

THANK YOU PATTE for doing a great job!!

On the whole bloc voting thing, I really don't think it was there. I think people are voting for the songs they genuinely like and ok even if there is some anus licking going on, I don't think it affects the results, or it is very marginal. It is just a bit of fun anyway and I don't think its worth worrying about unless it gets really really bad

well if thats so, u guys REALLY have to look who and WHY you ban people (not talking about this case now)... im getting really afraid of this ban thingy and if i see that banning seems to be commonly used, WITHOUT GOOD REASONS i will step out quickly, guys and girls

hahaha yeah patte forget our runaway plan from now on we r alone bu t the coolest team lol xD -sings vukovi umiru sami-smt like that by croatia haha

ON THE BANNING THING: Tbh i'm bugger all to do with it because i've never banned Mark and I don't plan to until I see him do something drastically wrong!

BUT if any of you don't like/have a problem with the whole situation, its probably best if you talk to jw about it as ultimately, its his decision as to what happens

I leave you with a hippytastic hoobalicious message ...

CONGRATS AARON Thanks to everyone who voted for my song I'm glad you liked it.

Thank you very much David! You had an awesome song too

I agree Arben Why on earth should I vote for countries, this is a song contest


LOL Sheep, please don't

Almila starting operation run a way to croatia mission, Ofc our team is the best ( maybe öhm .. ) xD

Runaway train ,.... isent there a song like that ?

Here are the full Þiðbandisj televote results

Country / Televoting Numbers / Allocated Points

Moofistan 10457 12
Jabia 8745 10
Ishtaristan 6421 8
Milklands 6387 7
Hexelbourg 5905 6
Støkkanslåndet 4874 5
Kristonia 4795 4
Tennisland & BB Island 4793 3
Arbana 4210 2
Andropida 4128 1
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Fusionia 4097
Black Daisystan 3645
Sheepmark 3102
Hatican City 2546
San Minino 2136
Saffinette 1958
The State Of The Ark 1765
Davis Island 1214
Fireflance 978
Lusitânia 654
Lokum 314
Lululand 154

omg mark should have done smt naughty for a lifetime ban

people u need to remember that david is at work and he uses extragant words as he is bored ^-^
on the banning thing bans are only for those who abuse the rules of the site , on the thread a while ago things were said that shouldnt have been leading to many talks with the mods the site manager and mark
a ban is not common - certain situations have lead to a ban
there is no need to panic or leave as this is a independant incident and further talks shall be made untill a later date

Well me & Chelsea were kicked from the chatroom for laughing once, so how are we supposed to feel convinced that we wont be banned like Mark, as for all we know, that could have been our warning?

For my part, I would consider this particular ban to be justified. I don't think anybody has to be actually afraid of being banned, I wouldn't envisage it being a commonly used tool, and I would certainly use any influence I may or may not have as a moderator to insist that bans are handed out with full and valid reasons.

I'm confident that the moderation team on the site always strives to be fair, kind and just in their treatment of members, so when we see rule-breaking amidst a bad atmosphere, we will have to act.

I personally think that this site is great - a real triumph from jw who has managed to help foster a community based on friendship and respect. It is only when that harmony and respect is threatened that measures have to be taken against individuals.

I don't think Arben or anyone else has anything to be afraid of from a team of mods who I believe are fair and even-handed. I would always hope for things to be open and transparent and for everybody to receive the respect and honesty we all mutually deserve.

Hopefully we can all be cool and friendly and have ESCChat be an awesome place to hang out where you can feel free to be who you want to be amongst friends

now isnt that a bit childish? again?? its like u r saying im afraid of coming to this site because the mods are so strict and ban everybody... and what they have done was just to ban one person which was really going for it...

well kev that wasnt me mina david este stew jonny or sam was it, so its not really the mods u have 'beef' with *never uses slang again*

Dave your grip of the english language is simply poetic and well immense!!!

Aussi, je agree avec tu! Nobody will be banned without reason, I know this brings up numerous questions as to whether mark had a reason but tbh he was very lucky to not be banned on a number of occasions so personally I think he has got off rather lightly in times where perhaps he shouldn't have.

And at the end of the day, if you haven't done anything wrong there is no reason why you would be banned so don't worry about it!! Getting kicked isn't a warning of being banned, as most of the time kickings take place as a joke. Pour exemple, I was kicked once for talking spelling Maths & Programme the english ways (AND I STILL STAND BY IT ESTE!!!!!!!!!!), but its hardly a warning of being banned as its a joke T'is no biggy

That is exactly how it SHOULD be
however, as i discussed last night, many of us "non-mods" feel that this is not the case, and that we are unfairly ignored by those who are in charge.
For instance, (i will just name a single situation), when Mark was banned, none of those people who were there at the time were asked for their view of what had happened, yet the only Mod who was there viewing the situation (not including the Mod who was in the arguement) had their view of the situation taken as fact - without even asking the others (even Mark was not offered the chance to explain himself )

whether the Mod viewed the situation as we all did is not the issue - the issue is that in such a serious matter - we were ignored

jonny!! can you do me a favour please?! can you give me the scoreboard of the first edition??

I wont name the mod, as they know who they were - but it WAS one of those people you listed

well it was not a funny joke - and when i asked why it had happened - i was simply kicked again
and surely a mod should not be kicking people for no reason?????????

THANK YOU KOTS!!! It is a tad depressing when people make mods out to be the next worst thing since the gestapo. We don't bite, honestly ... much